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Does Philips DVDR75 Builtin Time Base Correction really exist?
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Lordy
2004-03-01 03:43:22 UTC
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Has anyone seen any evidence of the Time Base Corrector mentioned on some
DVDR75 3rd party marketing blurb

http://www.google.com/search?q=dvdr75%20time%20base

But cant find any official Philips reference to it.

I have a UK model and have copied some of my commercial VHS tapes.
(Played back using a new Sharp VCR from Richer Sounds)
and verticals still look slightly more ragged than I would have thought.
Is this expected? And simply a case of "garbage in, garbage out"?
The VCR is hooked up to EXT1(scart to scart).

If the DVDR75 has TBC then, for me, its just a bonus on an already good
unit, otherwise I'll have to find a good PAL TBC. Thanks to Macrovision
w****rs I cant just go and buy one at Maplins to back up tapes that dont
have Macrovision protection!

Lordy
Lordy
2004-03-01 11:52:53 UTC
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Post by Lordy
Has anyone seen any evidence of the Time Base Corrector mentioned on some
DVDR75 3rd party marketing blurb
http://www.google.com/search?q=dvdr75%20time%20base
But cant find any official Philips reference to it.
I just called Philips UK and they said it doesnt have one :( Off to
Lektropacks I guess...

Lordy
Le Artiste
2004-03-01 12:10:55 UTC
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Post by Lordy
Has anyone seen any evidence of the Time Base Corrector mentioned on some
DVDR75 3rd party marketing blurb
http://www.google.com/search?q=dvdr75%20time%20base
But cant find any official Philips reference to it.
I just called Philips UK and they said it doesnt have one :( Off to
Lektropacks I guess...
What does TBC do, and what's the importance of it? Is it necessary to
buy one? I've tried copying a few VHS tapes to my DVDR75 and didn't
notice any major problems, albiet there was a slight difference in
brightness.

I wonder if you are using the RGB's on your machine? Reds look
particularly weak on my mine when outputting RGB, possibly the same on
the RGB input.


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Lordy
2004-03-01 16:06:43 UTC
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Post by Le Artiste
What does TBC do, and what's the importance of it? Is it necessary to
buy one? I've tried copying a few VHS tapes to my DVDR75 and didn't
notice any major problems, albiet there was a slight difference in
brightness.
Check out http://www.shorl.com/dybrilistabruda

There is a URL with a visual example but I cant find it at the moment.

Lordy
Le Artiste
2004-03-01 16:16:47 UTC
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Post by Le Artiste
What does TBC do, and what's the importance of it? Is it necessary to
buy one? I've tried copying a few VHS tapes to my DVDR75 and didn't
notice any major problems, albiet there was a slight difference in
brightness.
Check out http://www.shorl.com/dybrilistabruda
There is a URL with a visual example but I cant find it at the moment.
Thanks for that. Having read the description, I now know what I'm
looking for. I used to experience these sorts of problems when duping
video cassettes on cheap machines. I can't say I've noticed the same
copying to the DVDR75 from tape, but then I haven't looked for it. I
will try a couple of older worn tapes tonight to see if there's any
obvious problem.


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Lordy
2004-03-01 16:38:11 UTC
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Post by Le Artiste
Thanks for that. Having read the description, I now know what I'm
looking for. I used to experience these sorts of problems when duping
video cassettes on cheap machines. I can't say I've noticed the same
copying to the DVDR75 from tape, but then I haven't looked for it. I
will try a couple of older worn tapes tonight to see if there's any
obvious problem.
As I understand it ,as well as sweeping bends on verticals you get on
knackered decks also look for ragged verticals that should be dead
straight. eg tape a test card and play it back paying attention to
vertical lines.

Lordy
Lordy
2004-03-01 16:55:59 UTC
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Post by Lordy
As I understand it ,as well as sweeping bends on verticals you get on
knackered decks also look for ragged verticals that should be dead
straight. eg tape a test card and play it back paying attention to
vertical lines.
Correction. Tape the test card to VHS then copy the tape to DVD and
sync errors may be more apparent. Esp if you use different VHS machines
bet. recording and playback.

Lordy
Le Artiste
2004-03-01 17:18:42 UTC
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Post by Lordy
As I understand it ,as well as sweeping bends on verticals you get on
knackered decks also look for ragged verticals that should be dead
straight. eg tape a test card and play it back paying attention to
vertical lines.
Correction. Tape the test card to VHS then copy the tape to DVD and
sync errors may be more apparent. Esp if you use different VHS machines
bet. recording and playback.
I'll give this a shot later.


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Le Artiste
2004-03-03 20:00:36 UTC
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Post by Lordy
As I understand it ,as well as sweeping bends on verticals you get on
knackered decks also look for ragged verticals that should be dead
straight. eg tape a test card and play it back paying attention to
vertical lines.
Correction. Tape the test card to VHS then copy the tape to DVD and
sync errors may be more apparent. Esp if you use different VHS machines
bet. recording and playback.
Haven't had time to give this a real in-depth test, but comparing the
signal direct from the VHS machine to the ("virtual" timebase) output
from the Philips DVDR, I am sufficiently satisfied with the quality. I
cannot see an obvious difference. I was confident enough to (finally!)
buy a tub of DVD+R for transcribing my tapes, although as I say I have
only casually tested the setup. If I start noticing problems I will
post here.


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Lordy
2004-03-04 01:14:57 UTC
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Post by Le Artiste
I was confident enough to (finally!)
buy a tub of DVD+R for transcribing my tapes, although as I say I have
only casually tested the setup. If I start noticing problems I will
post here.
If you have a PC with a DVD Writer, copy to +RW first. Do basic
editing and then copy to +R/-R using the PC.

Lordy

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